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Barudan Embroidery Machine Bird’s Nesting Troubleshooting
Quick answer: Bird's nesting on a Barudan machine is typically caused by incorrect threading, unbalanced thread tension, or issues with the bobbin case or needle. Start by re-threading the machine, checking both upper and bobbin thread tension, and inspecting the needle and bobbin case for damage or improper seating.
Bird's nesting, where thread jams underneath the fabric during embroidery, is a common and frustrating issue on Barudan machines. It can disrupt production and potentially damage both your material and machine. This guide provides practical, step-by-step solutions to diagnose and resolve bird's nesting, focusing on the most frequent causes.
Two-minute checks before you open anything
- Is the upper thread correctly routed through all guides and tension discs?
- Is the bobbin correctly seated in the bobbin case, and is the bobbin case properly installed?
- Is the needle inserted correctly, flat side facing the proper direction, and is it straight and sharp?
- Is the fabric hooped tightly and stabilized appropriately for the design and material?
1. Improper Threading high likelihood
How to tell
The upper thread path appears incorrect, the thread is not fully seated in the tension discs, or there are visible twists or tangles in the thread path from the cone to the needle.
Fix
- Completely unthread the machine from the thread cone to the needle.
- Carefully re-thread the machine, ensuring the thread passes through every guide, the pre-tensioner, the main tension discs, and the take-up lever.
- Verify the thread is securely seated within the main tension discs. A common mistake is not pulling the thread firmly enough into the discs.
- Ensure there are no twists, knots, or tangles in the thread path.
Refer to the '06 Thread guide' and '03 Take up lever' sections of your Barudan parts manual for correct thread path diagrams.
Parts involved: Thread path & tension →
2. Incorrect Thread Tension high likelihood
How to tell
If the upper thread tension is too loose, loops of thread will appear on the underside of the fabric. If the bobbin thread tension is too loose, the upper thread will pull the bobbin thread to the top. If either is too tight, the thread may break or pull excessively.
Fix
- Upper Thread Tension: Perform a tension test stitch. If the upper thread is too loose, turn the upper tension dial clockwise in small increments (e.g., 1/4 turn) and re-test until the stitch quality improves. The upper thread should pull the bobbin thread slightly to the underside, creating a balanced stitch.
- Bobbin Thread Tension: Remove the bobbin case. Hold the bobbin case by the thread tail and gently jerk it. The bobbin case should slowly unspool a few inches of thread. If it unspools freely, the tension is too loose; tighten the small screw on the bobbin case. If it doesn't unspool, it's too tight; loosen the screw. Refer to your Barudan machine manual for specific bobbin tension calibration procedures and recommended settings.
The upper tension unit is typically found in the '06 Thread guide' assembly. The bobbin case is part of the 'rotary-hooks-bobbin-cases' system.
Parts involved: Thread path & tension → Rotary hooks & bobbin cases →
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In stock, tested before dispatch, Buyer Protection on every order. Part types for this problem: Thread path & tension, Rotary hooks & bobbin cases, Screws, springs & small parts, Needles & needle bars.
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3. Bobbin Case Issues medium likelihood
How to tell
Inconsistent thread feed from the bobbin, visible damage or burrs on the bobbin case, or the bobbin case not seating correctly in the rotary hook. The bobbin itself might be wound unevenly or be the wrong size.
Fix
- Remove the bobbin case and inspect it thoroughly for any burrs, nicks, or damage, especially around the tension spring and thread exit point. Replace if damaged.
- Ensure the bobbin is wound evenly and is the correct size for your Barudan machine. Insert the bobbin into the case, making sure it spins freely.
- Thread the bobbin case, pulling the thread under the tension spring. Confirm the thread exits smoothly.
- Re-insert the bobbin case into the rotary hook, ensuring it clicks firmly into place and is seated correctly. Rotate the handwheel slowly to confirm the hook engages the bobbin case properly.
The bobbin case is a critical component of the 'rotary-hooks-bobbin-cases' assembly. Refer to the '01A Head Bed A' or '01B Head Bed B' sections for rotary hook components.
Parts involved: Rotary hooks & bobbin cases → Screws, springs & small parts →
4. Incorrect Needle Installation or Damage medium likelihood
How to tell
The needle may be bent, dull, burred, or inserted incorrectly. This can lead to skipped stitches, thread shredding, or improper loop formation, causing nesting.
Fix
- Turn off the machine. Loosen the needle clamp screw.
- Remove the current needle and inspect it for any bends, burrs, or dullness. Replace if any damage is found.
- Insert a new, correct size needle (appropriate for your fabric and thread) all the way up into the needle bar, ensuring the flat side of the needle shank faces the correct direction (typically away from the operator or as specified in your Barudan manual).
- Tighten the needle clamp screw securely. Do not overtighten.
- Perform a test stitch to confirm proper stitch formation.
Needles are part of the 'needles-needle-bars' system. Refer to '04A-1 Needle bar A(Z12)' or '04B Needle bar B' sections for needle bar components.
Parts involved: Needles & needle bars → Screws, springs & small parts →
5. Poor Fabric Stabilization medium likelihood
How to tell
The fabric shifts or puckers during embroidery, or the design appears distorted. This movement can cause the needle to pull excess thread to the underside.
Fix
- Ensure you are using the correct type and weight of stabilizer for your fabric and design density. Heavier fabrics or dense designs require firmer stabilization.
- Hoop the fabric and stabilizer together tightly, ensuring there are no wrinkles or slack. The fabric should be taut like a drum.
- If necessary, use a temporary adhesive spray between the fabric and stabilizer to prevent shifting within the hoop.
- For very delicate or stretchy fabrics, consider using a 'floating' stabilizer underneath the hooped fabric, or a double layer of stabilizer.
Parts involved: Hoops & frames → Threads & supplies →
6. Thread Quality Issues low likelihood
How to tell
Thread frequently breaks, frays, or sheds excessive lint. Old or low-quality thread can be inconsistent in thickness or strength, leading to poor stitch formation.
Fix
- Use only high-quality, machine-compatible embroidery thread from reputable brands.
- Avoid using old, brittle, or improperly stored thread. Store thread in a clean, dry environment away from direct sunlight.
- If a specific cone of thread consistently causes issues, try a different cone of the same type or a different brand to rule out thread quality as the cause.
Parts involved: Threads & supplies →
7. Dirty or Worn Machine Parts low likelihood
How to tell
Visible lint, dust, or thread fragments in the thread path, tension discs, bobbin area, or rotary hook. Grinding noises or stiffness in moving parts. This can impede smooth thread flow.
Fix
- Regularly clean the entire thread path, including all guides, pre-tensioners, and main tension discs, using a small brush or compressed air.
- Remove the needle plate and bobbin case. Thoroughly clean the rotary hook area, removing all lint, dust, and thread snippets. Use a small brush and vacuum.
- Inspect the rotary hook for any nicks or burrs that could snag the thread. If found, a technician may need to polish or replace the hook.
- Lubricate the machine according to your Barudan machine's maintenance schedule and lubrication points specified in the manual. Use only recommended embroidery machine oil.
Focus on cleaning the '01A Head Bed A', '01B Head Bed B', '02 A Thread cut A', and '06 Thread guide' assemblies.
Parts involved: Lubrication & maintenance → Thread path & tension → Rotary hooks & bobbin cases → Head & mechanical parts →
8. Incorrect Machine Speed low likelihood
How to tell
Bird's nesting occurs primarily on complex designs, small details, or when using delicate threads, especially at high speeds.
Fix
- Reduce the machine's embroidery speed, especially for intricate designs, small lettering, or when using delicate threads (e.g., metallic, fine rayon).
- Adjust the speed based on the fabric type. Thicker fabrics or multiple layers may require a slower speed to allow the needle to penetrate properly and form stitches cleanly.
Parts involved: Control panels & displays →
Stop and call a technician if
- If you have thoroughly checked all the common causes and performed the suggested fixes, but the bird's nesting persists.
- If you identify a damaged component (e.g., a burred rotary hook, a faulty tension unit) that requires specialized repair or replacement beyond basic user maintenance.
- If the machine exhibits unusual noises, error codes not covered in the manual, or consistent mechanical issues.
Prevent it coming back
- Always thread your Barudan machine carefully, following the exact path through all guides and tension discs.
- Regularly check and adjust both upper and bobbin thread tension to ensure a balanced stitch.
- Inspect and replace needles frequently (e.g., every 8-10 hours of use or after large projects) to prevent dullness or bending.
- Use high-quality embroidery thread and ensure it is stored properly.
- Select the appropriate stabilizer for your fabric and design, and hoop the fabric tightly without wrinkles.
- Keep your machine clean, especially the thread path, tension discs, and bobbin area, to prevent lint buildup.
- Lubricate your machine according to the Barudan manufacturer's recommendations.
Frequently asked questions
What is 'bird's nesting' in embroidery?
Bird's nesting is when the upper thread bunches up and forms a tangled mess on the underside of the fabric during embroidery. It often indicates a problem with thread tension, threading, or machine components.
Why does my Barudan machine keep bird's nesting?
The most common reasons are incorrect upper or bobbin thread tension, improper threading of the machine, a damaged or incorrectly seated bobbin case, or a bent/dull needle. Poor fabric stabilization and dirty machine parts can also contribute.
How do I prevent bird's nesting on my Barudan machine?
Regularly check your threading path, ensure correct upper and bobbin thread tension, use good quality needles and thread, properly stabilize your fabric, and keep your machine clean and lubricated. Replace worn parts promptly.
Can a dirty machine cause bird's nesting?
Yes, lint and debris buildup in the thread path, tension discs, or rotary hook area can obstruct the smooth flow of thread, leading to inconsistent tension and ultimately bird's nesting.
From the Barudan BEVT-Z1501CII parts book
The assemblies involved in this problem, as the manufacturer lists them. Open a section to see every part number, which ones we stock, and get a price on the rest.
- 01a Head Bed A36 parts · 4 in stock
- 01 A Head Bed A30 parts · 4 in stock
- Head Bed A30 parts · 4 in stock
- 02c Thread Cut C22 parts · 4 in stock
- 04b Needle Bar B35 parts · 3 in stock
- 02a Thread Cut A36 parts · 1 in stock
Reference book: Barudan BEVT-Z1501CII. Part numbers differ by model - search yours below and we will confirm fit.
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